Over at Able Dart's Bathroom Wall, the premier forum for online discussion of San Francisco political issues, one SF man who goes by "Chrysippus" took issue with the naming of a recent "John Avalos For Mayor" event called "Queers for Avalos," asserting that the term "Queer" was offensive, and that a straight person should not use it.
In the SF Mayor's Race, every meeting counts, including how it's named.
Frankly, the idea that the term "Queer" was offensive never occurred to me, but then I don't use it, and perhaps I don't have the sensitivities that a Gay person would have in this case. Plus, I grew up with such elements of pop-culture like the TV show Queer Eye For The Straight Guy.
Chrysippus states:
The blast from Chrysippus started a healthy debate over at The SF Wall, here's some samples:
From the looks of things, it appears the people who formed the event are Gay, not straight, and elected to use the term. That's there choice. In the SF Mayor's Race, every meeting counts, including how it's named.
Frankly, the idea that the term "Queer" was offensive never occurred to me, but then I don't use it, and perhaps I don't have the sensitivities that a Gay person would have in this case. Plus, I grew up with such elements of pop-culture like the TV show Queer Eye For The Straight Guy.
Chrysippus states:
Gay supporters of John Avalos, mostly Milk Clubbers, have formed a group called “Queers for Avalos” (link below).
The use of the term “queers” to refer to gay people is offensive. The term implies that there’s something queer about being gay.
In fact, however, homophobia is what’s queer. Being gay is part of the natural spectrum of human experience. Hostility to people’s ability to love other members of their own gender is queer.
The term “queer” in reference to gay people is especially offensive when straights use it in this sense. And even more offensive, when straight politicians do so. And most offensive all, when done in the name of progressive politics.
I’ve been a gay activist since the 1960s, arrested nine times in gay liberation demonstrations, attacked and beaten.
I’m not queer. I’m not LGBT. I’m gay and proud.
Shame on John Avalos for being a party to this internalized homophobia on the part of the Milk Clubbers.
Here’s the link:
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=220413784644475
The blast from Chrysippus started a healthy debate over at The SF Wall, here's some samples:
westside progressive: Get with the times. The term "queers" has long ago been turned into a positive term by the queer community. I guess you're just grumpy because you weren't invited to the party.
Able Dart: I do believe from the above that the term "Queer" is in fact offensive to LGBT persons who prefer to see their identity as part of a larger society as opposed to those who wish to emphasize identity politics. Unless of course Westie want to venture down Queer Street again and claim that Wikipedia is a global conspiracy...
el Greco SF: What I find offensive are just plain "citizens" for Avalos.
I don't think John Avalos should be held responsible for an event he did not form himself, or at least this one. Not to say any person running for office should attend every meeting that's formed for the person, no. I'm just saying that in this case, I don't see the big deal.
But then that's why I presented it, to learn if it was, indeed a big deal. After all, the use of one wrong term can impact the SF Mayor's Race.
I dated a wickedly brilliant woman for several years who, even with our sexual component, if you will, consistently called herself Lesbian, not Gay and certainly not "bi."
I never asked her why that was, perhaps because I was having too good a relationship with her at the time and didn't want to blow it with a philosophical argument. Lord knows we ended because of a much more concrete one!
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